Finneas and Billie Eilish unfold their sibling dynamic as he goes solo (again!)

Finneas and Billie Eilish are an inseparable duo, both as siblings and as collaborators. As the sole producer of all their music, Finneas still found the time to record his second solo album. For Cryin’ Out Loud!

In a new episode of Spotify’s Vodcast Countdown toEilish takes on the role of interviewer to discuss Finneas’ feelings ahead of the album’s release on October 4th.

“I think it’s important to separate your taste from what you need to express,” Finneas, 27, says at the start of the episode. “It’s really not about you.”

Eilish, 22, enters the scene and begins by asking what Finneas wants people to take away from the album. “I’m kind of convinced that I don’t have any fans,” Finneas replies, adding jokingly. “I feel like some of your superfans are such superfans that I’m the expansion pack.”

However, the singer and producer was shocked to discover that all three of his shows in support of the album were sold out. Finneas is scheduled to perform in Los Angeles, New York and Kingston upon Thames in England for a series of intimate shows to play the album following its release later this week.

For Cryin’ Out Loud is announced as a solo album, but it is the result of some jam sessions with which Finneas works closely. “For anyone who’s never jammed with friends, this is it So “Fun,” declares Eilish, although she admits that she mostly jams with Finneas.

“The reason I did it that way was to have fun!” he agrees, taking a very different approach to his debut album The optimist, which he said he did in the “loneliest way.”

Finneas also talks about what his favorite songwriting process has been in his career, and they’re both Eilish songs. “I would say my favorite process ever… ‘What was I made for?’ It’s hard to beat being inspired and having something like that…that was a full shopping cart of material.”

He also loved working on Charli XCX’s “Guess” remix, which featured Eilish. “We wrote it and recorded it after we wrote it,” he explained.

Eilish admits what it was like for Finneas to take a step back from rehearsals and songwriting to work on his own music, saying it was “sad and hard” but also a relief. “I feel like I spend all my time on tour and rehearsing like, ‘Oh my God, Finneas wants to leave’ or ‘Finneas is unhappy.'” I just look up to you so much and want you to have the best time have.

Finneas recently did an interview with Guitar.com and revealed that Eilish is learning to produce her own music without his help.

“I set up Billie’s recording studio for her so she could do the home production without me because she’s very good at it!” he told the publication. “And it’s funny, I kind of gave her the bare minimum of stuff just so she could learn everything.”

For Cryin’ Out Loud! will be released on October 4th.